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\u00a0The Not So Super Superloop<\/span><\/p>\n

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Removed\u00a0 from the above (by fbb!) are three routes SL4, SL6 and SL8 which are not part of the “Loop” and never will be. Nobody can offer a good reason why they are numbered in hr Superloop sequence.<\/div>\n
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(click on the map to enlarge<\/span>) For those of our readers who have been exiled on the planet Zog for several months, or for those who only have a passing interest in things of the Metropolis, the above is a crude (it’s VERY crude) diagram of Mayor Sadiq Khan’s vanity project in his election year.<\/div>\n\n
Perhaps fbb’s cynicism is misplaced, but your perceptive blogger (?) imagines a conversation something like this at London’s mayoral HQ.<\/div>\n
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KHAN : I ned something spectacular to win me voites in the Toryland suburbs.<\/span><\/div>\n

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SPIN DOCTOR : How about putting on lots of new Express bus routes running in a circle through all the leafy Torylands? It will cost a bob or two but should win you at least a few tens of thousands of votes.<\/span><\/div>\n

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KHAN : Great. My dad was a bus driver. Get it done as quickly as possible; don’t worry too much about the detail.<\/span><\/div>\n
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So, after one renumbering and one second thought south of the Thames, the whole caboodle is now operating. Publicity has been poor, as usual, with no timetables or maps and the last to appear (SL2) couldn’t even manage proper destination blinds!\n
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Above is from Roger French’s blog about the last super link recently added.<\/p><\/div>\n

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Loopily Looping The Loop<\/span><\/div>\n
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So for this posting, fbb has planned an intellectual but imaginary full circuit of the “Loop” starting with SL1 and finishing with SL10.<\/div>\n
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Because TfL keeps its timetables secret, fbb has again used the excellent resources of Robert Munster to which he has added an all stops diagram created by Geoff Marshall. In due course fbb will aim to create a proper geographically accurate map.<\/div>\n
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SL1 – North Finchley to Walthamstow<\/span><\/div>\n
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A bus boing it …<\/p>\n

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… and a timetable extract.<\/p>\n

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The planned journey:-<\/p><\/div>\n

North Finchley 0958<\/span><\/div>\n
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Walthamstow 1041<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL2 Walthamstow to North Woolwich<\/span><\/div>\n
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This, of course, is where the loop doesn’t. It is also the route that was launched recently with no blinds and no departure lists at the stops. Sadiq’s secrecy stands supreme<\/span>!<\/span><\/p>\n

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But Mr Munster has a proper timetable!<\/p><\/div>\n

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The planned journey:-<\/div>\n
Walthamstow 1053<\/span><\/div>\n
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North Woolwich 1203<\/span><\/div>\n
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The Yawning Gap …<\/span>\u00a0\n
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… and 472<\/span><\/div>\n
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The gap is actually much more yawning than the diagram suggests. You need to insert another bus route in addition to tunnel\/ferry from Woolwich to Thamesmead to “mind the gap”<\/p><\/div>\n

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fbb has chosen the 472 to fill the yawning as it stops near the Woolwich end of the fluvial gap!\n
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He has allowed 30 minutes for the river crossing which gives a backup if the foot tunnel is closed. The Free Ferry can be much slower.\u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n

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Woolwich Arsenal station times are shown.\n
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The planned journey:-<\/div>\n
Woolwich Arsenal 1233<\/span><\/div>\n
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Thamesmead 1259<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL3 – Thamesmead to Bromley<\/span><\/p>\n

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All stops diagram<\/span><\/p>\n

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For some reason this timetable has a very large number of time points!<\/p>\n

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The planned journey:-<\/div>\n
Thamesmead 1308<\/span><\/div>\n
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Bromley North 1415<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL4 – not a Superloop route<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL5 – Bromley to Croydon<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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This is the only single deck Superloop route …<\/span><\/p>\n

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… and it is also the shortest.<\/span><\/div>\n
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The planned journey:-<\/div>\n
Bromley North 1420<\/span><\/div>\n
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Croydon 1453<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL6 – not a Superloop route<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL7 – Croydon to Heathrow<\/span><\/p>\n

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This is a straight renumbering of the former X26, once part of Green Line 726.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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To make it super for Superloop, the frequency was doubled to every 15 minutes.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n

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Consistency is a fine thing, but all the other SL services are every 12 minutes (15 mins evenings and Sundays)!\n
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It is also the longest route which makes the diagram a bit of a nonsense.<\/p><\/span><\/div>\n


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The planned journey:-<\/span><\/div>\n
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Croydon 1508<\/span><\/div>\n
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Heathrow 1658<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL8 – not a Superloop route<\/div>\n
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SL9 – Heathrow to Harrow<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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This was formerly X140 and before that 140. A simple renumbering …<\/span><\/p>\n

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… with an increase in frequency again.\n
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The planned journey:-<\/span><\/div>\n
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Heathrow 1711<\/span><\/div>\n
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Harrow 1808<\/span><\/div>\n
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SL10 – Harrow to North Finchley<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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The final map …<\/p>\n

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… and the final bus in what would be a very long day!<\/p>\n

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\u00a0The planned journey:-<\/span><\/p>\n

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Harrow 1815<\/span><\/div>\n
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North Finchley 1902<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

The whole circuit, using Saturday times, would take\u00a0a smidgen over nine hours<\/span> with a generous easy interchange at Woolwich.<\/p><\/div>\n

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Extra breaks would be needed for “personal purposes pertaining to the letter P” and some form of refreshment would also be essential. The bonus of Mr Khan’s profligacy is that frequencies will allow multiple breaks without compromising the total circuit.<\/div>\n
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It is more likely to be compromised by the participant running off from an interchange screaming with an onset of omnibological insanity!<\/div>\n
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There is a bit of detailed research to be done at Woolwich and Croydon but with those exceptions, buses arrive and depart from the same locations.<\/div>\n
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fbb will, as time progresses, take a look at each segment, with an eye to revealing all the excitement that can be seen en route and at the interchange points; and yes, very yes, the old bloke would just love to have the energy to do the whole lot in one go.<\/div>\n
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But, simply, that energy level is gone for ever. It has to be a dream.<\/div>\n
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Whether the whole circuit remains, as Transport for London wrestles with repeated budget crises, is very debatable indeed. It is odd, is it not, that at a time of increased stringency, TfL can pour resources into, possibly, up to 100 extra buses**<\/span>\u00a0on these routes when cut-backs are the order of the day elsewhere in the city.<\/div>\n
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Vanity project indeed!<\/div>\n
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See also “Borismaster”!!\n
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Nuff said!<\/p><\/div>\n

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Advice from fbb to Mrs fbb.\n
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Wouldn’t the fried eggs cook better without their shells?<\/p><\/div>\n

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It’s Election Year For The Mayor!<\/span>\n
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And everything is really lovely!<\/span><\/p>\n

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Hmmmm?<\/div>\n
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Correction<\/span><\/div>\n
up to 100 extra buses**<\/span>\u00a0is misleading and fbb is grateful to Roger French who replied in meticulous detail to a panic enquiry. Additional PVR<\/span> (peak vehicle requirement) for each Superloop route is as follows. But you need to delete other routes that have been reduced and the previous requirements when SL7 was X26.\n
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Even so, 78 extra buses, most of which are working long, long days, is a huuuuge extra cost. fbb was quite pleased that he guessed “up to 100” even if the overall total was only 98!<\/div>\n
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\u00a0Next Variety blog : Saturday 9th March\u00a0<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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