wp-gdpr-compliance domain was triggered too early. This is usually an indicator for some code in the plugin or theme running too early. Translations should be loaded at the init action or later. Please see Debugging in WordPress for more information. (This message was added in version 6.7.0.) in /home/camcab/public_html/wp-includes/functions.php on line 6114\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross?<\/span><\/p>\n … the Stanmore line became a branch of the Bakerloo in 1939.<\/p>\n It was accompanied by simple but effective publicity!<\/p>\n The broad aim was to take the tunnels south of the Thames where tube lines are a bit thin under<\/span> the ground. An early option was to veer south …<\/p>\n … to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n The plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n Other writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n There were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n <\/p><\/span><\/div>\n The Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n The final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n Proposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n It seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n Under this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n
![<\/a><\/div>\n… the Stanmore line became a branch of the Bakerloo in 1939.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt was accompanied by simple but effective publicity!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe chosen name for new plans was the Fleet Line<\/span>, taking the name of the buried River Fleet and Fleet Street.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe broad aim was to take the tunnels south of the Thames where tube lines are a bit thin under<\/span> the ground. An early option was to veer south …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh2GBIPEnT3ruYEFNJgnlIeytyLbHbhQbS2Yq01UQqxJdncUB5ZYwmvOsOUc_w9YXIT56qOKyiVt3MdB2SdRGzpl6doi_1LUUmtFTTEjHegU6nBmzPE4QVLevroAi0QCzGEiWSFcYUHWfQmeUVk9iBreiKj5ThNDYTEXeDDbD28vpu1yx4p1NZFwXGRFRyX\/s718\/Screenshot_20240212-190635.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nIt was accompanied by simple but effective publicity!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe chosen name for new plans was the Fleet Line<\/span>, taking the name of the buried River Fleet and Fleet Street.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe broad aim was to take the tunnels south of the Thames where tube lines are a bit thin under<\/span> the ground. An early option was to veer south …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh_JqUeiUEeWknYEXnNEyDaMIrnpINT403ekVAH5aP1BvaMLwMBvyJUuQPU3jO6FriEgKxDtmJt03EWsNh6i9XDRH4ndH9ow8IRJJ_ohBMgtAlNXjPRPEz7uXHMfMTUWDNR4NFINakgx3OAOOoe4N8sbwsI96fpIluAlth9JhW1KXHp3elTWPsbb6CR7EJN\/s637\/Screenshot_20240212-190715.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe chosen name for new plans was the Fleet Line<\/span>, taking the name of the buried River Fleet and Fleet Street.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe broad aim was to take the tunnels south of the Thames where tube lines are a bit thin under<\/span> the ground. An early option was to veer south …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjKpHL3SuPfDtuuiXIYISNx35dz1vTu-cUBVQ_1mtecJxqRLiu9Nw_tAlCvEYbI8F2ZAu90HLWmTgpFPWfLzJwmHcUQ4zTXedq6KFi-0hBOIg7U06t6fQBjA_JyAnQudWBm3GnT-CH7O4U9FVwhD_Lg-Jhf-J_gKQnLuH727_vU7KYq6CHdKoMmKshV10c5\/s1078\/Screenshot_20240212-185907.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nThe broad aim was to take the tunnels south of the Thames where tube lines are a bit thin under<\/span> the ground. An early option was to veer south …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? 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In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiz0-OxM3dfpRRJryQBii9_F4TpC9oKX8vAeBACSBAY3vHrRIRvA57O6ZmssI-1sxe34BhB6ot_qXSXnyz2E4RpgzWnsOlu5O11OuA6u6Bvc7mpREt9MfOf4bJcKKONZ7gHAfHTbmUpDtK65B_agxcELcbndv1UHM_CVz_6eD4kpwlBroVqsPaofCfrjWNc\/s484\/screenshot.26825.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\n… to\u00a0 Lewisham<\/span>, Addiscombe and possibly in to take over the Hayes branch from Network Rail. Ironically, this route later re-appeared as an extension of the other bit of the Bakerloo from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham …<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiqsQhyphenhyphenxYS1lh_FPLh8HMsOv1flV3n9b93VQyx7pmByJ5AYgaj-ky3sCjuEmhVeRcki-f95L4SVG6_nJEhXvtu2ZwuNn_aoqIuJDbl2_eMxtJOTOjp8B19wowoXpAJsFrM47JvzRSh2Il13lirvcEX0-tBTLlGwxcE913vK_p0wdkHL6idwdOaUZo-g2IpN\/s537\/Screenshot_20240210-205405_Photos.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\n… and on to Hayes.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? 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![<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe plans became mired in London politics, financial problems and senior management vacillation – so no surprise there. Also lurking in the wings was the on-going development of London’s Docklands.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAs everybody knew when it opened, it became obvious that the diddy Docklands Light Railway, more of a tram than a train, would prove less than adequate to transport the crowds for central London.\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? 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In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjtmkjIsO5TCnix-LsLn0ayJBYW9C2RJNspQKF1lH2T-Q8LkcJetLoqGpfwBp-KtT2h_xRXdClmIcHr712ovWXe543-OjIlFJRsAsmSQ0S5o0vXJ3S9o3sflpNKBy2BX0vh44ByUtMMgJ_GYbe8sbUWVH8U9fE3vuEpO0XCm73Fu9ZOhyphenhyphen9PAtlvqLxKSFkY\/s471\/Screenshot_20240212-190428.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nOther writers with better knowledge than fbb have filled the electron waves with full and detailed information. But here are a few maps of ideas that were being booted around like a ball on a rugby pitch.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiWJnB5OEsU6igv9BHZZcsg9hyphenhyphenonhX9j8tihXtbotjmtbwNl8w7Lt5Nc8_Uk1aPEyrbO1hw7dIUXHD2_5Ab-YzwGplrHFUkpYreA70mfrajXb7aG9jbnX_v6Asq6TsC3H-IUunlvP_Dy3rbbncdd5qFmqNdvVVDP-nsHSZGCzZKivCgy8DrNifASPEJ3Ms2\/s442\/screenshot.26827.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nThere were various routes to, tada, Thamesmead<\/span> and, in one intriguing option, a choice of Thamesmead or Barking!<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgMKzVG-LfyuOwShUi5m7C9b11ontJuAN_OHxscGy-zHVULdgF8Kh_eqnRh4G6ZKodK1iXByHr3uW-Nd7x8Pu63nU1stN2V3CpnzJlh2q_yEHWz6ZheIwTPIvoJggvkA693UiajuFceHdnEEel-WzDUigLm5H7TAbBE5u2SITtrfj-Epd5lW7wqFwOctfVv\/s682\/Screenshot_20240210-090156.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nOther options came and went.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhccxHlg8Rjjf0vQdT06H4MEP0SItvhmFOHp_dPFLimRXH8TtK-WTH1IUHwawmtOuQm_-6xGrvE2-3SMreeZquysWSKUgT1K-cw0ZetLuyNrEDNrHnswRj-vJy-5N68YiHWtjahx21Te5HCURivsM-BZswYu6jMwIUwLvJc4n8Ub3oBtogW2xe_Z8Nrk9ve\/s720\/Screenshot_20240210-090209.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/span><\/div>\nThe Fleet Line became the River Line and even the Thames Line before the politicians hit upon the Jubilee mame as opening of the revised lin (but only to Charing Cross) was scheduled for 1977, the late Queen’s Silver Jubilee year.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. 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![<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nIt opened in 1979<\/span>!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe diversion of the grand scheme via Waterloo and North Greenwich, the latter serving the highly successful (?) Millennium Dome.\n<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgM9QPW4sLagiJbDuthyphenhyphenztu8eVf7Gu_7pSIMjLx9pxHURbfFNMCMIC1gQwq6UorKm9CboV-DZMUHwin__13qsGy48FLw6bHLZUC-nN_n5OHfDI5Riptp4eJDFYu2_rV32HLaFpA6BSp-931mXdtN65PteZ76k4wXxpNhWTPDPhupW_n-gPHBdJ9XXd4QJHR\/s861\/Screenshot_20240212-191144.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nThe final chosen route added extra capacity via Westminster and Waterloo and served the mega development at Canary Wharf before turning north to terminate at Stratford, which turned out to be ideal of the Olympic Games.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhFndzWT8FZXcU80qF5s_jwWM-Qu5_QE4oa_rvKh8RP-YmzRK09sWNDXkl7gWYrItHf-btWXvxrrr4Xony-AcUo20O-ouJbcl61nslwLB8ZoQj1S53pd2MaSkGXSUKcjUU4Uz8GBAqT-wZIIR8UcSQPnw9tZpDhkJv4dQcm1obz576Agi9DM0OxfTzCSTV1\/s768\/screenshot.26828.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThamesmead lay rejected and unloved!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nUntil now, that is. Well, not now<\/span> now but now a step nearer<\/span>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut the process has been, yet again, tortuous and beset by what TfL laughably call consultation<\/span>. Here is the map of various options to server Thamesmead.\n<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgD9r6lgeJ2nyXGz9uK1o1if-1QNzYHKFwYN9N_JVXpFV6YwGXGKpnCyCwfGErrEJh_gaJ4hdJ3cqVpYW3LHtNlidrbtUdttSEomwNb1Q54nqXwHayAeqckUe0mKXmtJOnTeeOaC4oVvWspN2Rc8ciW3AZNNhYtojLf4BSE4khD66UZLjz8eLWlqYnSnaP8\/s621\/original_03d3b04e-0dc7-4943-86ed-528f42a75c85_Screenshot_20240212-153604.png\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nProposals to be discussed were:-<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nExtension of the Overground<\/span> line at Barking Riverside (ORANGE<\/span>) to Woolwich OR Abbey Wood OR Belvedere or any combination of the three.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDocklands Light Railway\u00a0(DLR) extension from Woolwich (BLUE-ISH<\/span>)<\/div>\n<\/div>\nDLR from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) continuing to Abbey Wood and\/or Belvedere.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nTram<\/span> (GREEN<\/span>) from Abbey Wood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nSo no proper Underground\u00a0<\/span>line, then? Boo!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnd, once upon a times, wasn’t there a plan to extend the DLR<\/span> from Gallions Reach (Beckton branch) to Barking Riverside and on to Dagenham<\/span>?\n<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEgQfrZzFyvWy58b0BzXnez_BSxe8Mb8YJ4BrFJGNPG67FDMzytgVxbfoLlfjuCUqLWMsVMgNnVaI7xQPtnSy2CVuFv2A64E6unQfZNl7I1qxEX4tbNRyfiuKpmjXZGhyphenhyphenaaaqfIkiGiS71KM0soh7j_BnbB20ZqeMrQPgXTqGGQpSH_pOlKYnYy3_r0Jo4fw\/s902\/screenshot.26829.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nIt seemed a good idea at the time but was dropped in favour of the Overground line.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nAnyway, recently announced is the result of the “consultation” (don’t laugh).\n<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEhEMj7nRb1WqStdKWcH9ucOfmbr28VcC4k3Ajf6VZKiBWUuXOUKIle20OfEs1Lftm3U76p0J4NNAQ7ygj76tNTkH1WdtrghU94jEtGMIlx2g2hwCN2YTaO7xC2qIPPfAesSj2JIu4OZpEZ0fdOHlrTKrdSr_I9rHE1pSL0IsAWbHXhJJrUlJDoMXp9DttQh\/s846\/screenshot.26831.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nUnder this plan, Thamesmead gets a relatively slow multiple stops DLR service with just one intermediate stop at Beckton Riverside (NOT Barking Riverside).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nThe map shows how the philosophy of the DLR is changed by this plan. Look at how close together stations are on the Beckton branch – like a modern tram. Surely Thamesmead deserves more than one station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nIn one of the myriads of previous plans, Thamesmead had THREE stops called, with astounding imagination, Thamesmead West, Thamesmead Central and Thamesmead East.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nWill the DLR extension every happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\nEvert man, woman and their dog seems to think so but there are still questions over the business case and thus the funding.<\/div>\n<\/div>\nMaybe best not to hold your breath!<\/div>\n<\/div>\nBut there’s more! As part of the grand plan a “rapid transit” (i.e. a bit less slow than normal) bus service will link Thamesmead with Woolwich and Abbey Wood.\n<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiqbuOH0_NjG9yXxYwVrjvaveOcSAi9so22JOmczIxJCTbin2xmlCE1MrlLOs8tfjLRwCYVNVdKxPXlO83xtjRfQYYbFf9SUXc2h4T5vm84IgZaUC55VYpfeIuH_LqGkb8yZDxVMQdnlIkhTvgfolTKYalE6K6GYpwL_K7VEkVzuOWnL6wZLU4rX7_EI3P9\/s684\/screenshot.26830.jpg\"){kind=link}
![<\/a><\/div>\nAnd what about the Thamesmead Waterfront development?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\nTomorrow, fbb will look at today’s bus services to the estate.\n<\/a><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\u00a0Next Thamesmead Troubles blog : Weds 14th Feb\u00a0<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0Starting At Charing Cross? It seemed a good idea at the time. In the heady enthusiastic days after the brand nee Victoria Line opened, London Underground was eyeing up new destinations and new routes.\u00a0 The planners h upon th idea os taking the existing Bakerloo line from Stanmore, bending it a but then rinning via Charing Cross, Aldwych and off…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":3776,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camcab"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3775\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3776"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/camcab.co.uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}](\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEiEbpLPS3Q5JRJp8Rb5875w5QHQZddpsxiruYMtehGymOeoDYiUWwXd0gupK6IZKd9WF_mBV6vU6sPgy2Jag2-0JFEhNJ4mD2MIqvERH1r2noEYp05xPn2r1B0SZs59KHViXoUxApbyWS4vnTXwJlc8TTxUouuEqDEyITOTI3V09AKXbsSsA1yrn-le-w8k\/s532\/screenshot.26832.jpg\"){kind=link}
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